Character of the Week: Ramza

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Character of the Week: Ramza

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Post by Auron » Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:11 pm

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Name: Ramza Beoulve
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Occupation: Squire
From: Final Fantasy Tactics
Info: Born to the noble family of Beoulve who have served the Larg's for generations. His two brothers command Ivalice's most powerful military corps, leaving Ramza with feelings of inferiority. After graduating from the Gariland officer academy, he joined Princess Ovelia's protection team and, while there, witnessed the Princess' abduction.

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:06 pm

Ramza is the only male protagonist in the FF series I actually liked the entire game (Balthier notwithstanding...though I consider him XII's official male lead, I know others do not). Others, like Zidane, were tolerable near the entire game, whereas the rest just got on my nerves.

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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:23 pm

^I do. -CSM

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Post by Auron » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:06 pm

^I can't win with you. I just can't. :(

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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:10 pm

^I didn't criticize you. Did I mention your name? No. You didn't know, so I'm helping you out a bit. People help me out all the time. -CSM

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:23 pm

ZeldaGirl wrote:Ramza is the only male protagonist in the FF series I actually liked the entire game (Balthier notwithstanding...though I consider him XII's official male lead, I know others do not). Others, like Zidane, were tolerable near the entire game, whereas the rest just got on my nerves.
Uh....Cecil? Locke? Edgar? Sabin? Cyan? Gau? Kain? Hell, even Zell?

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Post by Auron » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:45 pm

^She's referring to the lead protagonists (ex: Cloud, Squall, Tidus, etc.)

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:49 pm

No she's not - she mentions Balthier (or FFXII in general) as a point of contention, and Balthier (or Basch, or even Vaan) absolutely cannot be considered the central figures of the story that they play into.
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:50 pm

^Yes I am. I can make the argument that Balthier is FFXII's true male protagonist, but as I mentioned, most people don't see it that way.

But, yes, I was referring to the others such as Cloud, Squall, and Tidus.

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:00 pm

Right, but FFXII doesn't have any male leads as the central character in the story. The strongest argument could be made for Ashe.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:08 pm

Yeah, but the story is being told through Balthier. -CSM

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:08 pm

^^I'm not arguing about that. I agree with that statement. And saying that, out of the three male protagonists, I like to think Balthier as the actual "leading man" (haha, I so punny).


But it's irrelevant, and doesn't change the fact that out of the true male protagonists, Ramza is the one I actually like the most.


^Well, honestly, I wouldn't say that. I say that the story is actually presented from an outside party, and no character really "tells" the story.

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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:30 pm

^If you want to be technical, Ondore does. -CSM

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:34 pm

^I'll give you that.


Anyway. Ramza. AWESOME.

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Post by Perrin Aybara » Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:23 pm

As always, Wy is wrong.

Lighten up, Francis. Must everything be turned into an arguement about FF12?

Anyway, I since I didn't like FFT all that much, I never really liked Ramza either. He seemed rather boring. In fact, I don't even remember anymore what impact (if any) he had on the story of the game.

Plus, in my game, I named him "JAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!".

It was funny to hear people yell JAY!!!!!!!!!!!! all the time.

-jay

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Post by Wyborn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:34 pm

So anyone wanna compare Ramza to another character from similar games? Magnus Gallant, maybe, or Destin Faroda, or Lans Tartare?
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Post by Ace Mercury » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:32 am

Maybe I didn't pay attention to the story enough, but I didn't get a good feel for the characters. It's just usurp this, traitor that, for twenty hours, and then some weird sidequest with Cloud.

But I like how, completely coincidentally, he had the same birthday as me.

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Post by Sim Kid » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:54 am

Wyborn wrote:So anyone wanna compare Ramza to another character from similar games? Magnus Gallant, maybe, or Destin Faroda, or Lans Tartare?
Yes, Lans Tartare is a lot like Ramza - Was the story perchance done by the same people as Tactics Ogre as well? I know many other parts of Final Fantasy Tactics were.

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Post by Wyborn » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:00 am

Final Fantasy Tactics in general was created by the team that created Tactics Ogre and Ogre Battle. Now it's even more true since S-E bought Quest.

So Ramza is an unmitigated, unstoppable bad-ass comparable to Richard the Dragonheart, then?
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