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#21

Post by CaptHayfever » Wed Dec 30, 2015 4:28 am

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This soap was clearly designed by somebody who has never used soap. Those grip ridges will become useless the instant the soap gets wet, & they'll erode off within the first couple uses anyway.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:06 pm

Loot, you might need to explain that post because I don't get it.

Are you not understand what I'm saying here? 3 in 1 shampoo is shampoo and body wash.

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It's made specifically to be an all-in-one. Do you seriously think I take shampoo and rub it all over my body because I don't know what soap is?

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#23

Post by Sim Kid » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:39 pm

Well if you are legit being paid 23% less than a male employee, and you can prove it, time to call a lawyer and sue for discrimination. The law is even on your side! And I suggest doing it before people catch onto a way to save labour costs sitting right in front of them.

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Post by ScottyMcGee » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:52 am

[QUOTE="Sonic 5, post: 1579199, member: 26922"]Am I the only one who doesn't feel super clean after using 3-in-1 products? Kind of a jack of all trades, master of none type situation.[/QUOTE]

Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than a master of one.

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Post by Bad Dragonite » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:20 am

hey fun fact, men can buy women's shampoo and women can buy men's shampoo, just saying. I can explain this right now, besides the whole idea that women care more about their looks, I know plenty of men who but women's products like shaving cream and shampoo because its better quality and better for your skin/hair usually. So generally better quality and higher demand = higher selling price.
Also like kil said, it's.an earnings gap not a wage gap. Women in general earn less. Sociologists tend to think it's because women tend to put family ahead of work more than men and because more men take harsher more dangerous jobs that have high wages than women do.
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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:23 am

[quote="Vgfian]hey fun fact"]

The girly stuff smells nice sometimes. I'd use it occasionally if they had cheap 3-in-1 products.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:06 am

^^So if women earn less, how on earth does it make sense to charge more for their versions of stuff?

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:11 am

[QUOTE="CaptHayfever, post: 1582074, member: 25169"]^^So if women earn less, how on earth does it make sense to charge more for their versions of stuff?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"[/QUOTE]

Probably because they figure men usually pay for everything in a relationship anyway, so why not extort the men who "have" to buy it?

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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:15 am

^That's piss-poor reasoning--a lot of women aren't in relationships with men, & a lot of women who are still buy their own stuff. Besides, if you're extorting men who "have" to buy women's stuff, why not make all of the money & extort men on men's stuff too?

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:42 am

[QUOTE="CaptHayfever, post: 1582077, member: 25169"]^That's piss-poor reasoning--a lot of women aren't in relationships with men, & a lot of women who are still buy their own stuff. Besides, if you're extorting men who "have" to buy women's stuff, why not make all of the money & extort men on men's stuff too?

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I'm not in business, so I'm merely guessing it's their logic so I can't argue those points and regardless, it seems to be working because they're keep it.

Also, good question on extorting men's stuff as well. Probably because most men aren't as picky about what they use? I don't care about brands and scents so much as what is cheap, effective, and convenient. Women seem to like flowery things with extracts and name brands and such. My sister wastes her money on that junk, and while it smells nice, I can't imagine justifying such an insignificant difference for such a mark-up.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:51 am

[QUOTE="CaptHayfever, post: 1582074, member: 25169"]^^So if women earn less, how on earth does it make sense to charge more for their versions of stuff?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"[/QUOTE]

I don't have the down-low on shaving cream, but for shampoo it's probably more expensive ingredients, or at least more is done so that it does as advertised. There's shampoo that removes dandruff, keeps hair smooth, keeps it from going into knots, keeps it shiny. Meanwhile the cheapest shampoo is just soap that smells nice.

That's the risk you take with cheap s**t.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:55 am

That's not what's being compared, though; for these kinds of studies, they compare equivalent products. It's not "Suave Plumeria-Scented Anti-Dandruff For Women" versus "basic bargain-brand shampoo". It's more like "Suave Unscented Anti-Dandruff For Women" versus "Suave Unscented Anti-Dandruff For Men."

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:24 am

Not really. It was 2 in 1 shampoo (shampoo and conditioner) vs. 3 in 1 men's shampoo (shampoo, conditioner, and body wash). And it seems the addition of body wash somehow lowers the price.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:31 am

Even worse, then.
(I didn't actually read this one. I've read similar studies in the past, though, where they did compare equivalent items & found the same problem.)

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:06 am

:shrug:

I was just making an observation. I've never tried 3 in 1 so I don't know if it's better or worse on average.

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Post by Bad Dragonite » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:09 am

[QUOTE="CaptHayfever, post: 1582074, member: 25169"]^^So if women earn less, how on earth does it make sense to charge more for their versions of stuff?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"[/QUOTE]
dude I'm not even going to give you a real response, it's like you ignored the entire first half of my post where I explain how supply and demand are the cause most likely. I hope I don't have to explain supply and demand to you because if I do and you remain in an intellectual debate you're gonna have a bad time[DOUBLEPOST=1453111746,1453111699][/DOUBLEPOST]now back to soap jokes
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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:31 am

Well, the two halves of your post seemed to contradict each other, so I just asked about the half that made less sense. Way, way less sense.

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Post by Bad Dragonite » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:46 am

they seriously contradict each other in no way. My two points: Alot of men buy female products to use for various reasons so the most likely culprit for a price difference is most likely not a convoluted conspiracy against women and is instead just simple supply and demand. And 2 was Women earn less in general but aren't paid less. That's the statistical fact. They're paid the same amount (in fact more in a lot of cases) for the same job, but a majority of women tend to put family ahead of work, while men tend to work more hours and do harder yet higher paying jobs. Possibly due to the whole "bread winner" mentality that like it or not, many men have.
There's no way for these things to logically contradict each other that I can see and I would say there's no logic that could do so unless you're high or otherwise mentally incapacitated or challenged or simply wishing to be argumentative for the sake of disagreeing. So please if I contradicted myself there explain to me your logic in thinking so so I can either fix it. Or y'know laugh at you very disrespectfully.
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Post by Kil'jaeden » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:54 am

I just used couched language to say that marketers expect men to pay for a lot of the women's products anyway, and thus the extra expense would not matter much. I think that is the simplest explanation.
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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:05 am

[quote="Vgfian]Or y'know laugh at you very disrespectfully.[/quote"]

I think this part was unnecessary.

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