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Post by Bomby » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:22 pm

His proper is Scott Wanker, actually. But for some reason most people spell it with an L instead of an N.

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Post by John Galt » Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:44 pm

Crazyswordsman wrote:Here's the conservative double standard. When liberals protest against an elected conservative government, it's a bunch of whiny sore losers. When conservatives protest against an elected liberal government, it's a bunch of freedom-loving, patriotic concerned citizens. Someone please explain how this makes sense. -CSM
Show me one time in my 473 posts where I've whined about the results of an election. I'm pretty sure you won't find anything. If you do, let me know. While you're at it, show me where a prominent conservative or libertarian threatened to leave the country if a liberal president was elected. ;)

And for what it's worth, I think it's rather pointless to whine about the results of an election - regardless of who's doing the whining.

The beauty of our political system is that it can change overnight. The party that gets beat in one election can come back and kick ass two years later. Your political party will have another chance in 2012, CSM. I'm confident that the Republicans will **** it up once again and 2012 will yield entirely different results.
(and as a rail advocate, as furious as I am at Chris Christie, the of New Jersey, I feel bad that you guys are stuck with Scott Walker, who wants government to dictate how people travel by spending the tax dollars of those who choose not to drive or own a car on roads. Normally this wouldn't be an issue, but when conservatives start whining about having to support a transit system they won't use, then it becomes one).
You're constitutionally eligible to run for the House of Representatives, CSM. Why don't you give it a shot? You might pull it off.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:37 pm

Right-Wing Libertarian wrote:Show me one time in my 473 posts where I've whined about the results of an election. I'm pretty sure you won't find anything. If you do, let me know. While you're at it, show me where a prominent conservative or libertarian threatened to leave the country if a liberal president was elected. ;)
This isn't about any individual so much as it is about loud conservatives in the media, particularly Bill O'Reilly and especially Sean Hannity. Glenn Beck not so much; he's more of an instigator of conservatives (which Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity can be, but they also talk about how liberals that do the exact same thing they get conservatives to do are whiny losers.

Oh, and about conservatives threatening to leave the country? Yo.

You're constitutionally eligible to run for the House of Representatives, CSM. Why don't you give it a shot? You might pull it off.
I said that if an angry person like Carl Paladino were elected governor, that would essentially be the same as electing me to something because I don't have the temper to be a politician. -CSM

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Post by Metal Man » Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:33 pm

Right-Wing Libertarian wrote:Me? Whining? Tuesday was a great day for me. Why would I be whining?

California is a lost cause. I don't now why the Republicans there even bother running. :D
Well then, you may understand that rather than whine, I was just trying not to look like a dick to those stuck with candidates they disliked. (Since in California, it seems pretty much everything except the most conservative counties has Democrats in it now.)

Or you may not, but that's fine too. The people who annoy me are those who don't vote anyway, since in the case of this election season, it was that big Democratic enthusiasm gap that allowed victories everywhere.

Of course, Obama and co. had been rather lethargic with actually doing Democratic things, so I can't entirely blame them.

We just need Theodore Roosevelt II. I could see the horror of the Tea Party now, when they come face to face with a progressive Republican.
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Post by Crazyswordsman » Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:02 pm

^They already hate Teddy Roosevelt I. Pretty much the only president they don't hate is Ronald Reagan (who is a deity in their eyes), and even he would be put off by the tea party. -CSM

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Post by John Galt » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:44 pm

Metal Man wrote:Well then, you may understand that rather than whine, I was just trying not to look like a dick to those stuck with candidates they disliked. (Since in California, it seems pretty much everything except the most conservative counties has Democrats in it now.)
I know.

As the token conservative/libertarian on these boards, I just had to mess with the liberals (you included) a little - I figure I only have two years to do it before the Democrats regain control. God knows the Republicans will end up in the minority again.
We just need Theodore Roosevelt II. I could see the horror of the Tea Party now, when they come face to face with a progressive Republican.
I'd welcome him. He'd get the conservatives/libertarians off their asses and we'd take this country once and for all. :D
Crazyswordsman wrote:^They already hate Teddy Roosevelt I. Pretty much the only president they don't hate is Ronald Reagan (who is a deity in their eyes), and even he would be put off by the tea party. -CSM
That's not true - I love Jefferson, Monroe, Madison, and Coolidge as well. :D

Ronald got goofy in his second term. That was his downfall.
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Post by Bomby » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:43 pm

****dom begets ****dom, so... :shrug:

This is all rather funny that you use the word "whining," because libertarianism is in itself the whiniest (and most hypocritical) ideology of all. "WAAAAH! I don't like taxes! It's not fair!" and "WAAAH!!! I don't like the government intruding into my life! Unless it's banning gay marriage or other non-economic issues that I don't like."

Taxes are how government and economics works. Deal with it.

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Post by ZeldaGirl » Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:48 pm

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Post by Crazyswordsman » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:18 am

^I wish I could have that attitude this time around. If I did, though I'd be living in a cardboard box because executives would hog all the $$$. -CSM

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Post by CaptHayfever » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:48 am

We do not bring up Teddy Roosevelt in the Things That Suck forum. It just does not happen.

Speaking of sore losers, in the 2010 calendar year, I still see active motor vehicles sporting McCain/Palin bumper stickers...and Kerry/Edwards stickers...and Gore/Lieberman stickers.
...And speaking of sore winners, in the 2010 calendar year, I also still see active motor vehicles sporting Obama/Biden bumper stickers...and Bush/Cheney '04 stickers...and Bush/Cheney '00 stickers.

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Post by Crazyswordsman » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:28 am

^I think it's more people forget to take them off. -CSM

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Post by Sim Kid » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:42 pm

Neo Tazy Ten wrote:
Really, the Democrats have no one to blame but themselves. The Tea Party spent every day since 2009 getting notability and undercut them in the public eye. If you don't want the Republicans taking complete control in 2012, you may want to make sure others that share your views vote as well, and to spread as much knowledge about what's going on politically to as many people as possible.
It's because they don't cater to the Veruca Salt voters out there, of course.

Of course, spreading knowledge wouldn't help considering the Tea Party watches Fox News, and the media has the power to skew everything. (See: Death Panels)

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Post by John Galt » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:17 pm

Bomby von Bombsville wrote:****dom begets ****dom, so... :shrug:

This is all rather funny that you use the word "whining," because libertarianism is in itself the whiniest (and most hypocritical) ideology of all. "WAAAAH! I don't like taxes! It's not fair!" and "WAAAH!!! I don't like the government intruding into my life! Unless it's banning gay marriage or other non-economic issues that I don't like."

Taxes are how government and economics works. Deal with it.
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Post by Bomby » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:45 pm

And the obligatory "I have no response so I'm going to pretend I find this amusing" post.

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Post by John Galt » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:24 pm

Bomby von Bombsville wrote:And the obligatory "I have no response so I'm going to pretend I find this amusing" post.
I am amused - I'm not pretending.

The thing I find most interesting is the fact that Wisconsin is generally a liberal state and yet the Republicans routed the Democrats there. How do explain that? Were the people of Wisconsin tired of the Democrats' empty promises or is it just another vast right-wing conspiracy? Perhaps you could explain it to me.
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:59 pm

Okay, I'm gonna interject here to give a general warning: stop being douchebags. That goes for both sides, but I am gonna say, it's getting a bit trollish in here, so just stop.

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Post by John Galt » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:03 pm

ZeldaGirl wrote:Okay, I'm gonna interject here to give a general warning: stop being douchebags. That goes for both sides, but I am gonna say, it's getting a bit trollish in here, so just stop.
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Post by ZeldaGirl » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:59 pm

Thank you.

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Post by Bomby » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:14 pm

Okay.
Right-Wing Libertarian wrote:The thing I find most interesting is the fact that Wisconsin is generally a liberal state and yet the Republicans routed the Democrats there. How do explain that? Were the people of Wisconsin tired of the Democrats' empty promises or is it just another vast right-wing conspiracy? Perhaps you could explain it to me.
Completely wrong. Wisconsin is generally a state that's split into two very opposite factions. The cities have always leaned heavily Democratic, the rural areas have always leaned heavily Republican. Democrats still won in the cities; that's something that will never change.

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Post by John Galt » Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:52 pm

Bomby von Bombsville wrote:Okay.


Completely wrong. Wisconsin is generally a state that's split into two very opposite factions. The cities have always leaned heavily Democratic, the rural areas have always leaned heavily Republican. Democrats still won in the cities; that's something that will never change.
I still think Wisconsin as a whole is liberal. In 2008, Obama won the state with a comfortable margin of victory. Hell, the last Republican presidential candidate who won Wisconsin was Reagan in '84.

Before the election I was skeptical of Ron Johnson winning. The guy is completely unknown outside of Wisconsin whereas Feingold is well known and fairly popular everywhere. Johnson winning the Senate election was an upset, but the rest of the Republican pick ups in the state were revolutionary.

I was surprised by this election. I figured the Republicans would pick up a few seats - maybe even a slight majority in the House, but I didn't expect it to turn out the way it did. The Republicans won seats from Democrats who weren't supposed to be vulnerable.
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