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surprised this hasn't come up yet

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Post by Inferno Dragon » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:14 pm

twilight, it sucks more than a vampire on a blood binge at a raging kegger.

EVERYTHING related to the twilight books/movies SUCKS!

IT'S BAD FAN FICTION!

bella is a complete bitch, edward has the personality of wood and *facepalms at jacob in the 4th book*

so yeah, sparkley vampires suck.

*awaits iminent demise from rabid twilight fangirls*
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Post by Speed » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:24 pm

Published Fanfiction, pretty much sums it up.

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Post by Valigarmander » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:27 pm

The thing that bothers me the most is how much of an epitome it is of badly-written Mary Sue Livejournal fantasies written by 12-year-old girls, and how much money it's making despite that.

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Post by March » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:41 pm

^^^No need to worry about fangirls here. Everyone here is rational...almost.
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Post by Inferno Dragon » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:51 pm

thankfully.
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Post by MeowMan » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:56 am

Very, very, very, very, very highly agreed. Everyone acts like Twilight and everything related to it is so awesome. Even McDonald's at one point. And Burger King right now. When, really, it's a pile of crap.

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Post by Apiary Tazy » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:56 am

This involves getting them all killed.

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Post by Maximum Spider » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:02 pm

I think the stupidest part of it all is that nearly all the online game ads you see on the internet involve werewolves and vampires. I mean, seriously? Has the popularity of those things risen just because of some stupid series that features those as the main characters?

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Post by Deepfake » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:41 pm

Still doubt any of you have read the books. Not saying it isn't awful in general, but seems like people go pretty far out of their way to bitch about something they don't need to be involved with. I find the existence of it in general to be an ultimately hilarious example of how absurd it is that we accept the replacement of original works with the palest imitations.

Then again, everyone acts like I'm strange for not watching television or listening to radio. All utter ****, though. Most "creative" people don't even seem to understand that they're creating plagiaristic, stereotypical tripe with no respect for what's been accomplished by the world at large. Hence, crap like Twilight.

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Post by glux » Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:08 pm

The books not all THAT bad. I mean, little girls will read it because of the fairies!
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What?
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What do you mean those are supposed to be vampires?
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You're ****ting me...
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Oh, **** you , Stephanie Meyers, **** you.
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Post by Rubber Band Man » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:58 pm

Where's Blade?
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Post by Greenmarioman » Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:26 pm

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Post by Rainbow Dash » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:10 pm

where's buffy

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Post by Metal Man » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:27 pm

OMG GAIZ HOW DARE YOU HAET ON MAI FAVORIT BOOK ARGHHHHHHH

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Seriously, these books are silly. Hasn't any of their readers heard of the Wheel of Time? Or any one of the millions of other great books that coincidentally have vampire-like beings in them somewhere, and those beings happen to actually be threatening?

Alternatively, there's plenty of mushy romance novels out there, if they must snoo snoo with vampires. :p
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Post by VG_Addict » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:03 pm

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But seriously, we should do to all the Twilight books what we did to Atari E.T.

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Post by Valigarmander » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:42 pm

How Twilight Works - The Oatmeal

This was pretty funny.

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Post by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:43 am

Still definitely not the worst books I've ever read. In fact, not even close to the worst. If any of you want to read them before acquiring an opinion, then I could have a reasonable discussion with someone for a change. :(

Regardless.

It's all about the inappropriate labeling from everyone and their mother. Twilight is absolutely, 100% a romance story. Paranormal romance isn't new, but marketing it towards a younger audience is. Romance was a genre that was dominated by adult stories, focusing entirely on adult scenarios (like work and ****, not OH HO ADULT SEX LOL). To re-brand the genre for the younger crowd, you had an untapped fanbase waiting for someone to cater towards them. Romance is worked into most other teen lit (or other teen media), but until recently, hasn't been a constant focus.

And don't even start about how "broken" the relationship is. Edward is a vampire. Bella's ultimate goal is to become a vampire. If you can't fathom the significance of this, we really can't progress beyond here.

As for the vampirisms, I've always vaguely wondered if the loudest complainers are actually aware of the history of the legends. Yes, sparkling was pretty much one of the worst possible descriptions I could imagine for why they must avoid the light. However, I can understand what Meyer was going for; sparkling wasn't right on the mark (a simple pearlescence would have been much more appropriate, considering their skin tone). Melting/dying in sunlight wasn't part of traditional vampire legend until the film Nosferatu, which entirely made it up. But now, that is part of the standard "qualities" of vampires today. My point here being that fictionalising characteristics of fictional creatures has been done throughout history, and while we can all agree Meyer went down the failroad of sparkling, she hasn't somehow desecrated vampires by making changes of her own.

"Fanfiction" applies to every story made today. It's all been done, children. Get over it. Pixar haven't made anything that is original and unique, but that doesn't stop the masses fawning over their films. :p

Twilight is part of "high fantasy". It's accessible. Completely accessible. People romaticise love, dangerous situations, and having exciting lives all the time. Then the average level of reading comprehension is grade 9. These books are the ultimate "anyone can read it". Therein lies their success.

And guess what? They weren't written for you. You are not the target audience. You're not expected to like it, just like you're not expected to like Sesame Street, or lawn bowls and bingo. Once you've squared with that, you can approach these forms of entertainment with a much more ambivalent attitude, because you can accept that they aren't designed to appeal to you. It's for someone else.
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Post by Valigarmander » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:45 am

but it suuuuuuuuuuucks

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Post by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:51 am

so does half of everything the members here love i dont see the difference
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Post by Rainbow Dash » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:56 am

Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds wrote:so does half of everything the members here love i dont see the difference
uh oh

there she goes

the big girl

HASS the argument

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