FF14 officially announced as another stupid online game

User avatar
spooky scary bearatons
Member
Member
Posts: 7027
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:35 pm
Location: Wales
Been thanked: 2 times
Contact:

#21

Post by spooky scary bearatons » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:56 am

Hurrrr, you wanna know why MMO's require a fee in most cases?


They are consistantly updated, which requires game dev's to constantly be devolping for that game, which is money and time consuming, doesn't take a genius to know that they'll need funding for said case.

When you play an MMO, you're playing for a game that is constantly evolving, I'd play an MMO, over a game that ends at a certain point anyday.
"whether you have or have no wealth, the system might fail you, but don't fail yourself" -
GET BETTER - dan le sac Vs Scroobius Pip

User avatar
heh
Member
Member
Posts: 10420
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:00 am
Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied

#22

Post by heh » Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:09 pm

yeah man it sucks having to pay for every tf2 and l4d update

User avatar
Sim Kid
Member
Member
Posts: 13761
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2001 1:00 am
Location: The state of Denial
Been thanked: 59 times

#23

Post by Sim Kid » Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:37 pm

^MMOFPSes are different.


Think more like EverQuest or World of Warcraft that do stuff like add new classes, fix issues, add new dungeons and zomes...where're the new classes in Team Fortress 2?

User avatar
spooky scary bearatons
Member
Member
Posts: 7027
Joined: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:35 pm
Location: Wales
Been thanked: 2 times
Contact:

#24

Post by spooky scary bearatons » Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:54 pm

TEXAN TERRORIST wrote:yeah man it sucks having to pay for every tf2 and l4d update
I was refering to MMORPGs, updating an MMOFPS requires alot less effort on the devolpers part, making it easier to work it all, plus, MMOFPS major updates are no where NEAR the scale of a major MMORPG update.
"whether you have or have no wealth, the system might fail you, but don't fail yourself" -
GET BETTER - dan le sac Vs Scroobius Pip

User avatar
Crazyswordsman
Member
Member
Posts: 10683
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:36 am
Location: Booyaville (yeah!)
Contact:

#25

Post by Crazyswordsman » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:34 pm

Bomby wrote:Transcript:

*BRRRRING, BRRRRING*

Receptionist: Square Enix, this is Jamie speaking, how may I help you?

CSM: Yes, this is CSM?

Jamie: Who?

CSM: You know, CSM from VGF.

Jamie: *flustered* Oh, yeah, CSM from VGF. Uhh... what is it that VGF does?

CSM: Never mind that, let me speak to your manager.

Jamie: Okay, one sec, please hole

---------

Jamie: Umm... Roy? CSM from VGF is on the phone for you. I think it's important.

Roy: VGF? You mean the Virginian Goat Farmers?

Jamie: I'm not sure... I didn't ask what he was looking for but I think he means business.

Roy: Fine. Hurry. Give me the damn phone already.

---------

Roy: Square Enix, this is Roy speaking.

CSM: Show me Final Fantasy 14 in a normal format.

*click*

[end scene]
WINNAR.

ZG: Because I've heard so many horror stories about MMO players, written by MMO players. And frankly I'm not as hardcore a gamer as I was in my youth. -CSM

User avatar
Calamity Panfan
Member
Member
Posts: 35186
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:00 am
Location: all posters post posts
Has thanked: 124 times
Been thanked: 549 times

#26

Post by Calamity Panfan » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:50 pm

I don't play MMOs because I'm a cheap bastard. I'm sure I'd like WoW if I played it, but I honestly don't have the money or time to do it. That's also why I don't have a 360 yet, because I'm going to want Live as soon as I get it, but I don't have anything in my pockets.
and that's the waaaaaaaaaay the news goes

User avatar
Crazyswordsman
Member
Member
Posts: 10683
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:36 am
Location: Booyaville (yeah!)
Contact:

#27

Post by Crazyswordsman » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:29 pm

^I actually agree with that post. Right now I'm extremely poor and am losing money monthly (hopefully that will change after July). -CSM

User avatar
Sim Kid
Member
Member
Posts: 13761
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2001 1:00 am
Location: The state of Denial
Been thanked: 59 times

#28

Post by Sim Kid » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:37 pm

It's fully possible to have a 360 without live - I'm not touching live with a ski pole unless I can download a game from it.

User avatar
Calamity Panfan
Member
Member
Posts: 35186
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:00 am
Location: all posters post posts
Has thanked: 124 times
Been thanked: 549 times

#29

Post by Calamity Panfan » Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:34 pm

^ I know, but Live is one of the reasons I want a 360. I honestly don't think I'll want a 360 as much if I can't play me some CoD or Halo online.
and that's the waaaaaaaaaay the news goes

User avatar
Metal Man
Member
Member
Posts: 17964
Joined: Sun Apr 23, 2000 1:00 am
Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here
Contact:

#30

Post by Metal Man » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:39 pm

Personally, these MMOs are a waste of time, because you can just buy a game like TF2 and get support practically forever for no money.

Meanwhile, in the old days I played PSO and paid for it every month--and ultimately they failed to quash cheaters OR update much of anything. Indeed, TF2 got updated more now than PSO ever was in its entire lifespan.

That said, for the FF MMO people this must be great.
Super Smash Quest: Fighting evil since 2002.

User avatar
Rainbow Dash
Member
Member
Posts: 25503
Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2001 2:00 am
Contact:

#31

Post by Rainbow Dash » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:28 pm

Sim Kid wrote:^MMOFPSes are different.


Think more like EverQuest or World of Warcraft that do stuff like add new classes, fix issues, add new dungeons and zomes...where're the new classes in Team Fortress 2?
there's going to be a 10th one supposedly

User avatar
heh
Member
Member
Posts: 10420
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:00 am
Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied

#32

Post by heh » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:14 am

what? TF2 isn't an mmofps, 24 players isn't "massively multiplayer". And it still gets constant support. And you don't need literally everything to be updated just a have constant support. TF2 is designed to have 9 classes and adding a tenth one will dramtically change the balance of everything. Not to mention adding diffirent weapons to classes mostly defined by the weapons they have is a rather signifgant change to the class and drastically changes how you play... almost like a new class. woa.

So yes, update changes the balance of things quite drastically

User avatar
I REALLY HATE POKEMON!
Member
Member
Posts: 33170
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2000 1:00 am
Location: California, U.S.A
Has thanked: 5582 times
Been thanked: 498 times

#33

Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:33 pm

I wonder if you can transfer your character or get some kind of bonus from your FF11 game? That'd be pretty cool.

User avatar
Nomyt
Member
Member
Posts: 14095
Joined: Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:00 am
Location: In the TARDIS

#34

Post by Nomyt » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:09 am

I've just downloaded a trailer from the PSN. (As well as one for XIII, and nearly brought and Downloaded VII too. (I'm thinking if I buy that, then they might add VIII and IX))

Sadily it doesn't show much. (XIII was pretty tho)
Peace and Love X

User avatar
Auron
Member
Member
Posts: 7732
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2001 1:00 am
Location: Hiding from the sun
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times

#35

Post by Auron » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:19 pm

Metal Man wrote:Personally, these MMOs are a waste of time, because you can just buy a game like TF2 and get support practically forever for no money.
Unless your not a fan of FPSs.

User avatar
Sim Kid
Member
Member
Posts: 13761
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2001 1:00 am
Location: The state of Denial
Been thanked: 59 times

#36

Post by Sim Kid » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:02 pm

The Communist Scum wrote:what? TF2 isn't an mmofps, 24 players isn't "massively multiplayer". And it still gets constant support. And you don't need literally everything to be updated just a have constant support. TF2 is designed to have 9 classes and adding a tenth one will dramtically change the balance of everything. Not to mention adding diffirent weapons to classes mostly defined by the weapons they have is a rather signifgant change to the class and drastically changes how you play... almost like a new class. woa.

So yes, update changes the balance of things quite drastically

A new class implies something DIFFERENT and not just trying to make it so that people will actually play a scout. The only thing that really feels different is that the huntsman gives the sniper an actual reason to be on a few maps.

User avatar
heh
Member
Member
Posts: 10420
Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2003 1:00 am
Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied

#37

Post by heh » Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:16 pm

Auron wrote:Unless your not a fan of FPSs.
unless your not a fan of rpgs :smug:
Sim Kid wrote:A new class implies something DIFFERENT and not just trying to make it so that people will actually play a scout. The only thing that really feels different is that the huntsman gives the sniper an actual reason to be on a few maps.
scout is a 3rd-4th best class in the game with none of the new items fyi

User avatar
Perrin Aybara
Member
Member
Posts: 12700
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 1999 1:54 pm
Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... ou

#38

Post by Perrin Aybara » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:24 am

For the record, I have nothing against MMORPGs. I'm sure they're fine games. I just don't have the time to play them, nor would I want to spend the money on them.

I disapprove of FF11 and FF14 purely for the simple reason that they shouldn't have been named into the main series of FF games. Call them something else, dammit.

A purely nonsense reason, but my reason nonetheless.

-jay

User avatar
Sim Kid
Member
Member
Posts: 13761
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2001 1:00 am
Location: The state of Denial
Been thanked: 59 times

#39

Post by Sim Kid » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:03 pm

The Communist Scum wrote: scout is a 3rd-4th best class in the game with none of the new items fyi

Then was there an actual reason to play him on a deathmatch server?

User avatar
Wicked Witch of the Crest
Member
Member
Posts: 3808
Joined: Tue May 04, 2004 1:00 am
Location: Mt. Moon
Contact:

#40

Post by Wicked Witch of the Crest » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:39 pm

Perrin Aybara wrote:For the record, I have nothing against MMORPGs. I'm sure they're fine games. I just don't have the time to play them, nor would I want to spend the money on them.

I disapprove of FF11 and FF14 purely for the simple reason that they shouldn't have been named into the main series of FF games. Call them something else, dammit.

A purely nonsense reason, but my reason nonetheless.

-jay
Agreed. So to the point that I there's no FFXI for me(as X-2 doesn't really count), so my series ends at X, and starts up again with CC. I did enjoy it(albeit it's an offline version of your MMO(and a LOT less characters)). Playing with over 8 people total is just way too much. There's no balance, or even fun in it. Too many people try to screw with you. If I want to try XI, I'd have to pay way too much because there's no offline mode(which I would obviously have seperate from online in every way) to even practice. Such a waste of time for me(and money, possibly).
What's the matter, scared?

Locked