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I'm 20, turn 21 soon, and have never been on a date, or even kissed a girl. I guess it'll never happen.

This thread isn't about your height, but it is just as defeatist as ever.

Why do you need to go on dates and kiss? What will it benefit you?

Those are normal desires but keep it in perspective; it only matters as much as you let it. There are more important things in life to focus on, especially when you're young.

My first date was about 6 months ago. I'm 27. Don't sweat it; it'll happen.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

i've been on two dates, both were basically "friend dates": one to win a bet against my roommate, and the other to cheer up a friend who was going through a rough break-up; only kissed two girls, and those were both stage kisses

i fell hard for three different girls over the course of this past year and nothing came out of it romantically (in one instance I'm still getting kinda mixed signals but considering our situations it's very doubtful of ever becoming something serious). And while I had my heart broken for a little bit, what came out of all three situations was a close friendship that I hadn't had with any of these girls previously.

So don't give up even if it seems like you can't win. Even what seems like the worst relationship luck can turn out for the best, even if it's not in a romantic way.

None of us care; why should you?

Don't worry about dating. You usually sound like you don't like yourself much, so selling yourself to someone else might be tough. For now, try to do something that would make you proud of yourself.

You're too preoccupied/concerned about women liking you.

Well, believe it or not, women liking you DOES matter.

My brother's 31 and he has never got a girlfriend. So yeah.

You have to like yourself before anyone else will want to have any kind of relationship with you. The person you date is meant to be your partner, not your emotional lifejacket. They don't deserve to be trying to convince you of your worth all the time. Do things that make YOU like yourself, and other relationships will come naturally over time.

Don't try and argue against the whole forum again. Either you want to hear our advice, or you just want to air your thoughts without any feedback. Choose now.

i will choose free will *wails on flaming guitar as goddesses embrace me*

Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds wrote:You have to like yourself before anyone else will want to have any kind of relationship with you. The person you date is meant to be your partner, not your emotional lifejacket. They don't deserve to be trying to convince you of your worth all the time. Do things that make YOU like yourself, and other relationships will come naturally over time.

Don't try and argue against the whole forum again. Either you want to hear our advice, or you just want to air your thoughts without any feedback. Choose now.

Well, since there wasn't an actual question to start with, I think I know where to place my bet...

Also I was going to say your first paragraph

S1x wrote:Also I was going to say your first paragraph

you still can if you want i won't stop you

Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds wrote:You have to like yourself before anyone else will want to have any kind of relationship with you. The person you date is meant to be your partner, not your emotional lifejacket. They don't deserve to be trying to convince you of your worth all the time. Do things that make YOU like yourself, and other relationships will come naturally over time.

also true of fellow forumgoers

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I mighta beat him to the punch

I guess the reason why I'm so worried about no girl ever wanting me is because there aren't a lot of people in my family left, and I don't want my family name to die out.

THAT'S why I'm so worried about my ability to get a girl. I guess the height thing just stemmed from it.

Women don't automatically change their surname in marriage, that's a choice the couple has to make. Getting a lady "to pass on the family name" ignores every legitimate reason to share your life with another person.

But by all means keep talking about wanting a woman like she is property

VG_Addict wrote:Well, believe it or not, women liking you DOES matter.

Why?

^ Nobody is treating anybody like property, man.

^^ Each person retaining their name is okay, but most men want to carry on their family name, nothing wrong with that.

^There's a lot you're misunderstanding behind the tradition of a woman changing her surname.


And there are plenty of women who want to carry on their family name, too. Again, it goes back to point number one...