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Teen Sex

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:50 pm
by DarthButcher
What is your opinion about teen sex? I believe that there is nothing wrong with teen sex, to a certain point! Like, if you ARE having teen sex, you MUST where a condom. I don't think teens should have sex frequently, but I do not oppose teen sex. I will most likely not have sex until I am in college or married, hell, I DONT wanna have sex until I am in college or married, but if the conditions are right, I might.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:34 pm
by LOOT
*Sigh* I will tell how I feel about this... I am firmly against it for a few reasons...

I am absolutly AGAINST condoms. Hate them. They're just an excuse for having sex. Because they have a 85% chance of working, it's basically having pleasure without consenquences. What people don't relize is that sex is mainly both a form of love and an attempt to fertilize the female for a child to be born, tied tightly together. With condoms, they're just trying to get rid of the child-bearing part, only for their sexual pleasure.

Also, mainly teenagers are young and confused in their feelings. If a boy and girl are unattened, have had no education about the dangers, and BAM. There will be more than a baby. Depressed feelings, economic issues, and so forth. Teenage parents rarely work out at all.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:49 pm
by The Missing Link
I have to agree with L007 about the condom issue. They're excuses, plain and simple. Imagine there were no condoms in the world; would the statistics and opinions about teen sex be largely different? Of course they would. Part of the problem is that most teens believe that they're a catch-all solution, that condoms are the proverbial safety net for preventing the transfer of STDs and the risk of pregnancy. If by "safety net" you mean "overarching net to catch people if they fall... except for those who fall in the gaping holes in th net," then they're absolutely right. (Good luck finding people who actually know that.)

However, that isn't my primary problem with teenagers having sex. A lot of this correlates to my problem of teenagers thinking OMG what love really is. Now I'm not saying they understand it at any level at that age; I realise that isn't true. It has taken me until about my college graduation to realise that my definition of love wasn't quite the true meaning of it. If indeed sex is supposed to be the culmination of commitment that love has to provide between two people, then teenagers shouldn't be having sex for the very reason that they can't understand it fully at that point in time. (After all, those years are very difficult years where a lot of maturation is going on.)

As a result, it really boils down to a couple of cases:
1) If a teen has sex because OMG I AM IN LUV N WIL B WIT DEM 4EVR!!!111... get a clue and just look at the divorce rate that the likes of them might be causing.
2) If a teen is just curious and thinks that it would be a neat thing to try, condom (see the first point) or not, it's a completely reckless thing to be doing. While you're at it, why don't you just go try marijuana and cocaine while you're being curious? They're just as dangerous and deadly.

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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:56 pm
by Yoshi Girl
I kind of agree with Luigi007... I mean sex should be about love, not just pleasure... One of my friends wanted to be friends with benefits... I told him I don't want that... I mean, I don't love him, he doesn't love me, and I don't want to mess up our friendship.

I think the important thing about sex is if the two people truely love each other.

I don't think having sex at a young teen age is a good idea, I don't think you really understand love yet and I don't think you are really responsible enough yet...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:01 pm
by Perrin Aybara
DB, I'm sorry, but this topic shows how immature you really are.

In no cases is teen sex appropriate.

Hell, it isn't even appropriate when people aren't married. I'm not even speaking in terms of moral reasons. But there are simply too many risks that come along with sex (aka children and STDs) to be fooling around with it until you are in a stable marriage.

If you're a teenager, and you think it's ok to just go around and have sex whenever you feel like it, then you have some serious issues.

There are too many cases of teen sex that end badly. I've seen it happen. It ruins lives. Teenagers are simply not mature enough or prepared for the consequences.-jay

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:52 pm
by Vinny
Wait a second. Are you talking about "teens" or "teenagers?" There is a difference, you know.

I think that it should only be done if the people in question are very, very mature and have a real understanding of what their actions can lead to but also have a true appreciation of what they're doing. This necessarily requires being in the later years of teenage hood, from 16-18. I have a friend who has a girlfriend with whom he has had sex, and it's going great for him. The main difference is that he takes precautions, and should the precautions fail, he's ready to take responsibility for his actions. He also has a very good understanding of what "love," if you will, is about. He has stuck with his girlfriend for 2 years, and frankly, I congratulate him for it.

In most cases, however, people aren't ready to do it, even if they are 16 or 17, because they don't understand what they're doing. I said "disapprove" merely because I disapprove of the majority of instances in which teenagers have sex.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:25 pm
by Rubber Band Man
What ^ Said.

Guys come to reality, condoms are here, and as long as they are, teen sex is going to exsist, now I'm not just sayin this to defend myself, i'm saying it because it is truthful.

Jay, no need to be calling DB immature for this, he's statin' what he feels, and what I feel is like him, sure if there was no such thing as condoms, then teen sex wouldn't be around, but there are such things as condoms, and there are people who don't believe in God so they don't care for the moral rule.

Teens are going to be pressured/wiling to have sex, they do what they so choose at the time, the consequence is on them.

If I ever have a baby by accident, I WILL be there for that baby and be a real father.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:32 pm
by Vinny
^I don't believe in God, and I care for the moral religion.

Yes, I know I'm nitpicking, but don't assume things that shouldn't be assumed.

Teenagers will always have sex (not ALL teenagers, of course, but some), condoms or no condoms. It's just a matter of whether that's a good decision or not. And in most cases it isn't.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:33 pm
by Perrin Aybara
But it's not even about morals. It's about being mature and physically ready and prepared for the responciblities.

Teenagers who have sex simply don't understand the concept of STDs. They don't understand that becoming pregnant is a very real risk. And they don't understand that once you have a child as a teenager, it WILL ruin your life. Say goodbye to college. You won't have time for it, since now your sole job in life is to take care of this human being you have brought into life. Its a lot of financial responcibility to raise a child. And a couple of kids having sex as teenagers don't have this kind of financial responcibility. On top of that, they are not ready mature-wise to be parents. There is no reason to take those risks. Kids need to be taught about these risks. Under no situation should we say that it is "ok". The risks are too great to take that chance.-jay

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:39 pm
by Rubber Band Man
Yes, I know I'm nitpicking, but don't assume things that shouldn't be assumed.
Mah bad, I guess I'm wrong again.
Originally posted by Perrin Aybara:
But it's not even about morals. It's about being mature and physically ready and prepared for the responciblities.
True
Originally posted by Perrin Aybara:
Teenagers who have sex simply don't understand the concept of STDs.
Not all, but most don't
Originally posted by Perrin Aybara:
They don't understand that becoming pregnant is a very real risk. And they don't understand that once you have a child as a teenager, it WILL ruin your life. Say goodbye to college. You won't have time for it, since now your sole job in life is to take care of this human being you have brought into life. Its a lot of financial responcibility to raise a child. And a couple of kids having sex as teenagers don't have this kind of financial responcibility. On top of that, they are not ready mature-wise to be parents. There is no reason to take those risks. Kids need to be taught about these risks. Under no situation should we say that it is "ok". The risks are too great to take that chance.-jay
Very true, and that brings a good point.
My dad had my sister at 18, and my uncle had my cousin when he was 18 and my aunt was barely 16, I'm not sure about how my dad's life went after that (I know he was in the service), but I know my uncle had to quickly marry my aunt or he could have been arested, I don't believe he went to college though.

But still Jay, people are going to find an excuse and a way around admitting their wrong, yeah, I was wrong, and I can preach and preach all I want, but am I sure I'm going to resist temptation? Some people are weak to pressure and temptation, and I don't mean temptation like in a religious OMG TEH DEVIL context, I mean being tempted by things.

But that's my 2cents.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:31 pm
by ocarinagirl
Well, as you can see, I was one of the people who didn't mind. And I'll tell you why.

Usually, the teens I knew who had sex (girls, mainly) reeeeeaaaaally pissed me off. Going on and on about "Oh, I had sex with this guy and I loved him so much and he's the one, blah blah blah" and then two weeks later, they're with another guy. Yeah. I usually don't mind that they have sex, so when they get some burning sensation or warts or crabs or whatever, I can laugh and say, "Oh, well you learned your ****ing lesson, didn't you?" Hahaha.

I know it sounds mean or cruel or whatever...but the teens who do this and don't understand about the ramifications of sex or what love really means...I will laugh at you. So very hard. Because you deserve it, you ****ing dumbass. :mad:

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:34 pm
by Rubber Band Man
WATCH THE LANGUAGE YOUNG LADY :mad:

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:51 pm
by Godot
Originally posted by DB-That's Me:
I DONT wanna have sex until I am in college or married, but if the conditions are right, I might.
But you have also the power to control those conditions. If anyone comes to you asking for a sexual favor, you have the right to say no. This leads to another thing called Peer Pressure. Even if they call you a wuss for not trying sex or drugs or whatever, you can still control what you want to do in life and you can thank your lucky stars later that you didn't do something you didn't want to do.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:07 pm
by DarthButcher
I should change that to say: 99% Sure I am going to abstain from pre-marital, but if something EXTREME happens, then the 1% yes would become a reality.

I don't approve of pre-marital with or without condoms, but I don't think there is anything wrong with it, either. I basically am on the fence(TAKE THAT JAY!!), and I think it is up to the two parties involved. I do not find myself immature by posting this, this is an age old discussion that I haven't seen a topic about.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:13 pm
by Prince Toad
I'm with Andi. [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Nicely put.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:28 pm
by ocarinagirl
Originally posted by Prince Toad:
I'm with Andi. [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Nicely put.
I calls 'em like I sees 'em. XD

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:05 pm
by Perrin Aybara
Hehe. Fine, I'll just go with what Andi said.

DB, if you think teen sex is ok, then go ahead and do it. Then when you get some young girl pregnant, or when you end up with some STD, then that's your own fault.

And you can't say that you don't approve and yet you think there is nothing wrong with it. That's a contradiction. By saying you think there is nothing wrong with it, you approve. There is no fence sitting. You either think it is ok, or you don't.-jay

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:17 pm
by Swordmaster Link
Seriously, if you're going to cop-out on the topic, then you shouldn't have brought it up. You have to take a definitive stance...none of this "Oh, well in the .00001% chance that so-and-so happens I'd do it" stuff. As for adding to the discussion, I'll reply with something more meaningful when I'm done with HW.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:18 pm
by DarthButcher
By not approving means, I am not saying "Hey teens, go have sex!". As I said, I am 99% sure I am going to abstain until marriage.

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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:25 pm
by Perrin Aybara
You're confusing the defination of the word "approve". To say "Hey teens, go have sex!" is promoting teen sex, not approving teen sex. You can still approve it and not promote it.

By saying that "I don't think there is anything wrong with it", then you are approving of teen sex.-jay